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Post by chaos2 on Aug 6, 2008 15:10:29 GMT -5
Ah, the 'ol inactivity spell. If I had a penny for everytime this happened to me...
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I'd have like, 3 pennies, but still.
I don't visit this place nearly as often as I should. It's just that my own forum is just starting to take off, and I have to frequent quite a few forums.
So, with that being said, do we have any contests going on here?
I know when I started one at my place, we got out of a inactivity spell.
We started a Chao of the Week kinda thing *Yeah, we're a Chao Forum >.>*, and activity surged. We went from 12,000 total posts to nearly 14,000 total in like, a week or two.
I don't know any ideas for a Pokémon related contest though...
But still, the other few times I got an inactivity spell, I went through many of the same feelings/thoughts you did R.S. Heck, reading your posts reminded me a lot of myself.
When it happened to me, I just sat back, and waited. I don't mean, completely abandoning your forum, I still made sure to post and check up on the staff.
That's another thing you mentioned. The staff not enforcing rules/maybe just being lazy?
I have a lazy high rank staff team at my forum. You just have to hound them if they're not doing their job. If it continues, maybe they just don't tend to deserve that high of a staff rank? I'm not trying to get anyone demoted here.
I think that you shouldn't worry so much about the activity. If RTC is becoming more of a chore than an entertainment source, that's just natural. I say just leave your most trusted in charge, and take a bit of a break from the place. Shutting it down...heck. I'd forget about the place, and my mind would go into this little thinking trick that "RTC is shut down." everytime I thought about going to it. Eventually, I probably wouldn't come back unless I was at Chao Club and looked up at the Welcome Table., or was looking through Chao Talk's affiliates and saw that.
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The affiliates are another thing to consider. If your affiliates are active, they will more than likely check their sites. When they see the place is shut down, they will more than likely remove you. This may hurt you in the long run as well, because when you reopen, you will have less publicity.
...heck, sorry if this post made no sense. It's mainly just personal thoughts/past experience/rambling.
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Post by bulby101 on Aug 6, 2008 19:48:22 GMT -5
well rite naoh tat is meh farst clie |
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Post by croad0 on Aug 7, 2008 4:12:15 GMT -5
cant you transfer everyones profiles over to the chao club thing.
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Post by The R.S. on Aug 7, 2008 6:33:27 GMT -5
You'd have to go over and create your own account from scratch if you want to go over there because, though I do have staff powers there again, any real "transfers" of profiles I won't do.
Anyway guys, not doing too good of a job of keeping the site you so dispiritly want open. The other day, the forum made a total of 92 posts in a 24 hour period. For today, you guys only made a lousy 43 posts. I'll be keeping track of today's records as well. They are being recorded in this simple format.
August 5th start post: 54,328
August 5th End Post: 54,420
Post made total: 92 posts.
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August 6th Start Post: 54,420
August 6th End Post: 54,463
Post Made Total: 43
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August 7th Start Post: 54,463
August 7th End Post:
Post Made Total:
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Post by misterguyofshinobi on Aug 7, 2008 8:23:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the encouragement R.S. XD.
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Post by clario on Aug 8, 2008 0:17:01 GMT -5
First off- I'm sad to see RTC closing. Why close it? I mean, leave it open for the people who still visit. If you're going to remake this place in the future, keep this open and you have something redirect to the new site. Then tell your affiliates to link to the new one. Honestly, I think you're thinking too big. The forum isn't that big, so why think big? Think small, do what you can for the members you have. If you get more members and the forum grows, think bigger, and so on and so forth. We have perhaps ten, fifteen people who visit and 43 posts is nice for that amount. What amount are you expecting? Sure, it's getting smaller. What do you want to do about it? Do you just want to sit back? People join mostly because it's a Pokémon board, and the people who join will mostly be immature people who's attention span is probably as limited as to a goldfish. Catch their attention span with something unique- sure, the game will be awesome when it comes out, but by the time it does comes out, we have a small limited people to show it to. I remember you talking about a RP war when I was a staffie back then. Why didn't you ever unveil it? Better yet, why not think about something else? People are probably leaving because there's nothing here to do other then chat about stuffs. Why not host an event? A Pokémon battle tournament, a Metroid shootout, just anything that would catch people's attention. If you can't, ask the staff for advice, or maybe some real life friends. Yes, the game is taking your time. But if your main audience is going to be the forum, don't you think it may be better to pay attention to here instead of the game? The staff members don't pay attention a lot? Demote them and put someone else in charge. No one is worthy? Well then, you'd better get to advertising! I know you've been trying to and nothing's been yielding any results. If you want to give up on this forum, then go right ahead, you have reasons to. This is easier to say than to do, but keep trying. Join other forums, advertise your forum in your signature and be active there. People play Pokémon all over the world, perhaps you'll run across some. Just check the rules. >> This is my opinion made from my observations. You do not have to follow this to a tee, nor do you need to even read this if you don't want to. I am merely just saying how I feel. Now, responses! Shut up. Also, lol memes Honestly, this is just the same thing if you're starting to count member posts and saying 'If you don't post, I'll close it down!' Even if this is serious and the CC person was not intending to at all, what you are doing are same in a way. Sadly, this is true. Bulby is one of them, by the way. But what do you expect with the audience you're working with? |
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Post by lexy on Aug 8, 2008 1:07:19 GMT -5
I give Kudos to Clairo. Really, I'd like it if the owner didn't just belittle everyone in public and insult his staff instead of taking it to PM or the staff. I find it immature, and here we have the owner saying nobody is up to par for staff.
I had a lot of respect for R.S when I first came here. For the few months I was here though. I was insulted twice, and not only that. Everyone else was. I lack the respect anymore and with this attitude. I don't want to fight to keep the R.T.C open. Why, try so hard to keep a place active when we have a staff member on P.M.S who belittles staff and members? Apparently though, people are willing to put up with this Bullshit. At least people are posting, and not everyone has left. Including me for some reason.
If you want, I know somebody is makes a wonderful staff member. Incredibly active, polite, does her job(big one there), has a lot of experience(has been a mod at at least 3 role-play forums), and easy to get along with. If your interested, then just drop me a PM. I'll talk to her about it and see if she's interested. However, I don't know if I will stay much longer if such an attitude keeps up. I joined because I thought this was a /nice/ community with /friendly/ staff.
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Post by The R.S. on Aug 8, 2008 2:25:38 GMT -5
And that's what I want, but believe me when I say I have really, really got towards my wit's end with this place that it is stressing me out. I am pissed at my staff because... I don't knpow. I used to get them so hyped up and patriotic and now, I just feel like I'm constantly being blown off. I ask them to do the smallest things, maybe a few posts a day, but it doesn't happen. I try not to make a lot of demands on them and keep things simple enough where they would be able to reach this minimal quota every day. But instead, nothing changes. I keep trying, but nothing happens and it frustrates me. If I could simply take a break from the site, as I have said many times, I would. But if I leave, I do not feel like the staff would do their jobs of running the forum. I feel like the only one who would do something is Bulby... he has the best activity probably out of anyone on the site right now. But I can't just leave him alone with this. It has me pulling hairs and I don't want him to go through the same.
Already, believe me, I feel like a failure of an administrator now. Now after reading those last two posts (which, I really, really do appreciate the feelings even if they do hurt me), I just feel even more so of a failure and I'm sorry that I have failed. I'm at a constant battle with myself. Torrey has made me so self-consense about myself with a lot of the things he said about me and to me, I can't think straight. I now feel like if I get the smallest idea, I have to pass it all by the staff first before doing anything with it. The less enthusiastic the staff sound about it, I doubt myself and end up thinking it was a dumb idea anyway.
I wanted to do Rescuer of the Month again, but it got nowhere out of my head... I wanted to hold Smash Bros. contest and give the winner up to 1,000 Wii Points for a game download, but I didn't feel the staff were encouraging enough and were more like "well, if you wanna do it, meh, go ahead. I'll enter, but meh meh meh".
I go insane with this site sometimes. A while back, when I was censoring words on the site, I did it to get some laughs on the site and bring activity back up. Maybe I should not have done it at all or it was at a bad time to do it because the results of it simply imploded upon itself and I felt like a lot of people were frowning down on me.
I have little confidence with RTC anymore. I don't know my own priorities. I keep saying I want to take a break from the site, yet what am I doing at Chao Club? Got my staff spot back as I am debating within my mind "should I just take a break from the internet in general?" I abandonded CC so many times in the past already and I don't want to do it again. In some convos over the IM, I'm random and silly while seconds later in another, I'm on a bitch fest... if I am even talking at all.
Right now, all my thoughts are twisted and bended. I think my internet social life is getting way too screwed up ever since I lost Torrey as my friend. I blame him for nothing, but the impact of it must've just done something. It has been downhill for me since the insident and I'm paranoid in my head that he is laughing at me for all this. I'm not anywhere near going to the nuthouse, but the internet is driving me insane in the not-fun sort of fashion.
This is why I am thinking of closing down RTC for atleast a small while. If I just left it, I'd be twitching my fingers and simply be lurking in the shadows to see if shit is exploding on me because I really just don't trust my staff right now. But with RTC down for awhile, it would feel, to me, a burden off my back even if it burdens other members who come here.
I make poor choices in this kind of state. I think too much, get paranoid too much, and am simply at a loss. But if you guys do want RTC open so badly... then I'll try to, just for a minute, break away from old habbits. Lexy and Clario, you two have shown a certain quality within yourselves. Maybe the other staff won't approve because I'm not passing this by them first, but frankly, I don't give a damn right now. If you two want, I'll give you a moderator spot. I'll make Bulby head admin for awhile and the rest of the staff... you can figure out on your own.
Just another dumb idea I'm throwing out.
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Post by misterguyofshinobi on Aug 8, 2008 8:10:26 GMT -5
R.S., you're not a failure. Just because managing a site is making you Procrastinate does not mean that you are a failure. I'm sure a lot of successful forums were rocky at one point in time. And I agreed with teh SSBB tourny. You're right I didn't say it with a lot of "Umph" because at the time I had a lot to think about that I'd rather not discuss.
And, that sounds like a fine Idea to me. Putting Lexy and Clario on the staff. Maybe demoting Sasha because she enjoys Chao Club so much more than RTC.
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Post by chaos2 on Aug 8, 2008 12:16:07 GMT -5
I second the Clario/Lexy/Bulby promotion, but wasn't Lexy suggesting someone else? Or was she speaking in a third person sort of way? O-o Eh. If there's anyway I can help out with the staff thing, I'm not begging to be staff or anything, but I will say I've earned at least a Moderator position on quite a few forums under a different persona, even though many are small. If I can do anything, just give me a heads-up. I wanna see this site thrive, and I'd hate to see it whittle away, even if only a small while.  |
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Post by lexy on Aug 8, 2008 14:54:50 GMT -5
R.S, We all needs break from something like managing a forum like this. I've done it myself from the other board I staff at. I took a two week break and I felt much better. If you feel like your going crazy from all this, don't let everyone here stress you out. Who knows, maybe you just need a couple weeks away from the Internet overall. Becoming insane has a tendency to get boring. Do your real life things, kick back, enjoy your old video games and other hobbies, work on improving your art. Fun things you were too busy for beforehand.
As for what Meowth was asking, I was talking about my best friend, not myself. I have little experience whatsoever of moderating a forum. I've been an administer of a role-play forum but not a mod. I also am a busy person juggling college, my board, the place I staff at, my real life friends, and a relationship with a significant other. I'd too probably be quite inactive around Sunday-Wednesday. I will say though, I do feel quite honored that a member like me who has been around for a few months is considered by R.S, MGOS, and you as well. If several people don't mind I could try. However, my offer of asking my best friend, still stays.
To be honest, I am glad people here, listen to me here. The other place I staff at, I am constantly ignored when it comes to development of the board. Being that it's a board around a graphical community, people tend to listen to those with superior drawing skills. While I, being one of the most busiest members is also one of the hardest working there as well, am not important. It's frustrating. If anything I should quit and dedicate more time here. I will take time to consider it.
I think, there are some things you can do however Meowth even with not being on staff. You can start your own events to put the pride back in RTC, you can message the staff with what you think can be improved, advertise, well actually this is stuff everyone can do. Continue to put feedback in topics like this, it is a good critical thing to do. If everyone had not posted their opinion, this would have upset R.S even more and caused more problems. It wouldn't also hurt to give thanks to the active staff. They are working here for free to keep this place civilized, neat, organized, and enjoyable. Making a thread in the general board saying "Thank you for the hard work (insert name here)" would make him/her not only happy that people appreciate them, but may instill them to work even harder. That is just a few things I can think of at the time, but I am sure there are many things you can do without being on staff.
I am not sure if everyone agrees, but I think this topic has just served it's purpose and maybe should be kept open for a few days so everyone can get their opinions in; but then locked. This shouldn't be allowed to drag on for a long period of time.
(Quite sorry about the long post, my mind was just a big jumble last night, I slept to get my thoughts straight and well, guess I had a lot to say.)
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Post by bulby101 on Aug 8, 2008 16:48:19 GMT -5
I feel like the only one who would do something is Bulby... he has the best activity probably out of anyone on the site right now. But I can't just leave him alone with this. It has me pulling hairs and I don't want him to go through the same. You're about three years late for that. tl;dr for the rest. EDIT: Nevermind. I read it. That's a good idea, RS. I think I'm back on the side of supporting keeping the forum open, and have Lexy ask her friend. |
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Post by guestsasha on Aug 9, 2008 0:48:41 GMT -5
*sigh* Okay look, I'm sorry. It was wrong to say what I said the other day. I've just been living tough right now, and I really apologize.
I think it'd be great to promote Lexy and Clario. I know I've been doing a terrible job, slacking off and what not. But I'm really going to try my best. I've been kind of in a depression lately, and RTC was the last thing on my mind. A few weeks after I get into school, I'm sure I'll be on here a lot. I want to help, I really do.
Don't close the site. I've been here since last year, when I was only 12. I've learned a lot of things. I feel at home here. And I want to come back.
I don't think Chao Club is better at all. They don't truley like me there. RTC has always been nicest to me, like a family. And I'm sure the other members feel at home here. That's why you shouldn't close the site.
R.S., I want you to go take a break for awhile. I'll help Bulby look over the site.
And once again, I'm truley sorry for everything I've done.
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Post by rangerdude949 on Aug 9, 2008 0:52:45 GMT -5
im with Sasha im behind eveyone and Sasha your forgiven and im pretty sure everyone agrees with me dont let bug you we all get that way sometimes and again dont close down the site if you need any more extra staff to help consider me if you want i have lots of free time most of the time and ive been here longer than some people
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Post by The R.S. on Aug 9, 2008 1:15:25 GMT -5
...it's so good to know that everybody feel the way they do. It is nice to see the support of the site really go up with some dedicated members. Obviously, through my stress, I've been oblivious to what has been here all along.
For Clario and Lexy, I will give you both staff spots... don't worry. It really isn't that hard. We have a staff board hidden from normal members, along with a couple other hidden boards, so if you want, you can practice and toy around with the powers you have there all you want. You can give this a try Lexy and if you like it, you can keep it. But if you want to recruit your friend, you can bring that up with the rest of the staff and discuss it or whatever. Right now, I'll just work on getting you two on staff and updating the H&D to adjust the situation a bit more.
Sasha, that's fine. I out of anyone should know what it feels like to have a bunch of stress. One thing that bugs me now is informing Chao Club of my overall internet break since I got my staff spot back... really, I didn't expect it so soon. DT was simply like "Heroic is awesome, trying to enforce the rules again. He gets his staff spot back" while I was trying to be one of the four to get the actual spot back in a reorganization in the future... might be hard to say to them that I'll have to yet again decline, but it really wasn't fair to the rest of the staff anyway.
Hmm... I guess I will go into a complete internet withdraw... except when I want to update my DA account. I'll go there whenever I draw something new, but I don't go around and post there or anything. Just update my journal and my drawing things...
...anyway, I ramble now. I'm gonna promote Lexy and Clario now. Do what you guys want and feel like you think is a good idea to the site. I'll be withdrawing from the webs pretty soon though.
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